Comments on the New Rules???

To those who have seen XFA this past weekend and to those who were paying attention, you may seen a new rule being called as the New Era of Aggression. Here is the simple rule change:

New Era of Aggression Rule Change
All standard one fall matches follow the guidelines of a hardcore rules match. Weapons are allowed and to win you can either:
a) pinfall
b) submission
c) referee stoppage due to time constraints
d) referee stoppage due to medical reasons

So what do you guys think of the new rules? We are comparing it to the old ECW days where everything is pretty much a hardcore match. Any ideas?

This rule will be implemented on the XFW show as well, maybe by a different name though.

I'm just curious what everyone thought about it?

Do weapons get inserted into regular One Fall matches, or are you looking at a ton of work inserting them yourself?

No, we just use the regular hardcore match and it automatically uses weapons.

I don't use the hardcore much but, if a strength is favoured as far as damage is concerned, isn't it even more of a difference when weapons come into the equation?

Don't get me wrong - I don't mind the usage of the match.

In addition - doesn't it cost X-Force more FE to use a Hardcore match versus the One Fall match? As long as all the factors are thoroughly considered, I have no objection.

Great points Jade.

Playboy, from what I have seen, it really doesn't sway the match one way or the other as weapons being picked up is random and a strength doesn't necessarily pick-up weapons more often. I don't thinkt he strength gives an advantage and this is why, I see it the same as any regular move or any finisher. If it is strong, it is strong. More likley than not, the weapon use probably takes place of a sig move or finisher. A faster wrestler will still dodge it and a strong resist wrestle would or should be bale to handle it the same way as if it were any strong move or sig/finisher.

I also notice that weapons aren't really used as often as I expected in a hardcore match.
We also have an LMS and First Blood match that cost the same as a hardcore match to offset some of the matches.

Which brings me to your other point Playboy, we are on a bit of a testing phase with the fed. We do spend more by making hardcore matches but in return, we get more audience/fans, which equals more income/fans increase for the fed and more salary and fan gain for the wrestlers. This is one feedback we would hope to get from you guys, if there is a significant difference between shows from last season compared to this season that uses all special matches.

I need to ask:
Interference still makes a match end in a DQ?

The Interference DQ is pretty important when you try to build a good story/feud. So, at least IMO, Interference DQ must keep as a way to end/win/lose a match.

No, interference is allowed, basically there are no rules, anything goes.

I never really put much thought into the DQ, so those are the kind of thinking we need to improve this new rule.

I think, with no DQ's, it opens up a more creative ending for each match. It opens up more possibilities. A DQ can be simply replaced by a sneak attack or something of that sorts. From the past shows we have done, I think we have used the "attack someone and it results in a DQ and the wrestler attacked wins" situation maybe once or twice. I'm pretty confident we can come up with more creative ways to interfere or cause someone a win.

Just look at it this way, it closes one door but opens ups a few more.


Thanks for the input and question Malky.

Dont sounds good for me. We lose a lot of good chances of RP, like "distracted referee", "squash after a hard match", "the guy who comes from under the ring with a shilleighlahh (???)", and a lot of other Eddie Guerrero's ways to get a gimnick.

^^^ We can still do that. Even if there is no DQ, there is still a good reason to distract the ref. We've done one Eddie Guerrero gimmick but not lately or ever after that.

The guys can still come from under the ring, except this time he doesn't have to hide fromt he ref. And he wants to do a sneak attack, he can still do that because it's main purpose is make the guys lose or make the guy win.

Also, we have other special matches and those would have rules I'd imagine. Like, if we do 1st blood, I could imagine that would DQ any interference. The same goes for LMS or others. Since Hardcore is a standard match, we should be able to put special rules on some of the special matches and base it accordingly to the story planned.

I dont know Dante. We will see it. But, honestly, I dislike this new rule. It opens the path to another "stable vs. stable" episode.
But, anyway, we will see...

^^^ I have thought of that but my guess is, we put an ability on the ref where they can kick out wrestlers out of the ringside. Similar to what WWE refs do at times.

Also, in those cases, where they maybe a clear advantage or someone might interfere, the GM's (especially me since I am a face GM) that any interference will cause that person to be fired. (See, were being creative already). Let say GP is wrestling Darth Clay, if D01 comes down then we would have Sharkman comes down as well preventing an interference.

It could also trigger our off the ring segments/rps. Like if I were to fight GP and I know D01 would interfere and I have no alliances, I could write up something where I delay his planes arrival or order him to go do something, somewhere far, etuff liek that.

There are plenty of angles that could be played and opens up our mind to creative things other than the usual that we have seen already.

I don't think it will open the stable vs. stable door again because first of all, because we won't let it. And secondly, there just really isn't anymore stable in the fed. Even heels are goign against heels in this fed so only tag teams has an advantage.

With Sentinel and JPowers situation, Jade could interfere with what they are planning and it just boosts Sentinels image as a heel even more.

I'm still open to changes but I think a no DQ has its advantages that is at least worht a look or shot this season.

DANTE wrote:

^^^ I have thought of that but my guess is, we put an ability on the ref where they can kick out wrestlers out of the ringside. Similar to what WWE refs do at times.

Also, in those cases, where they maybe a clear advantage or someone might interfere, the GM's (especially me since I am a face GM) that any interference will cause that person to be fired. (See, were being creative already). Let say GP is wrestling Darth Clay, if D01 comes down then we would have Sharkman comes down as well preventing an interference.

It could also trigger our off the ring segments/rps. Like if I were to fight GP and I know D01 would interfere and I have no alliances, I could write up something where I delay his planes arrival or order him to go do something, somewhere far, etuff liek that.

There are plenty of angles that could be played and opens up our mind to creative things other than the usual that we have seen already.

I don't think it will open the stable vs. stable door again because first of all, because we won't let it. And secondly, there just really isn't anymore stable in the fed. Even heels are goign against heels in this fed so only tag teams has an advantage.

With Sentinel and JPowers situation, Jade could interfere with what they are planning and it just boosts Sentinels image as a heel even more.

I'm still open to changes but I think a no DQ has its advantages that is at least worht a look or shot this season.

Some excellent ideas / examples

Interference without a DQ is a good way to further a feud or ignite a new one, as long as it doesn't get overused and somehow involved in every darn match or feud. If it starts to get routine, the entire setup then becomes boring and the fan voting will be negatively impacted.

No system is perfect the first time it's implemented and everything can be tweaked. If we see something is not working as anticipated, we can change it.

if someone was to interfree we could also do something like the ref is really strong like a former body builder or something and forces the wrestler to the back something like what TNA does some times.

slugger wrote:

if someone was to interfree we could also do something like the ref is really strong like a former body builder or something and forces the wrestler to the back something like what TNA does some times.

Whoa there!!! Lets not get too close to mirroring TNA's booking debacles.

So every match is a hardcore match?

Yup, it is.

TheSentinel wrote:

No, interference is allowed, basically there are no rules, anything goes.

AWESOME

Um you know how the Extreme fight championship was unique mid card title because it was onlty defended in hardcore matches.

Well now that every match is hardcore it not that well....how do I put it hardcore or unique.