Murder City Massacre?

Hey, at the moment one of my finishers, the Murder City Massacre is a Cobra Clutch with body scissors. But since I focus completely on making that finisher as damaging as possible, a cobra clutch doesn't feel like a hold that would damage you.

Since I can't come up with anything right now, anyone have ideas on what would be the most devastating or the most damaging submission hold that you guys can come up with?

A dragon sleeper with body scissors?

That could be. I'd say some kind of armbar like maybe a modified Fujiwara.

Or maybe boston crab ?

that guy is wearing pink underwear. lulz.

A guy in pink underwear.... I guess that says something about that crab.

by the way I've got question for you what in your opinion is best name for Ankle Lock as a trademark..

Well, the ankle lock in itself is an okay name. But if I have to come up with something more original, Deep Trouble.

Great one thanks

Hows this for a create finishing move name:

Deep s**t

Pitty you can't mask swears as that would be funny (John has Deep S**T locked in on Worthy... Worthy is still in Deep S**T)

Perhaps Deep Trouble instead?

Disgusting Deeps Dangerously Dangerous ankle lock. jk ,Deep Trouble sounds good

you should have it as the slugger lock!

now thats a great name

How about this idea... I don't know what exactly to call it technically, but laying across the opponents back and grapewining the arm and then pulling it across the back while holding a wristlock?

I guess the closest technical name would be an inverted reverse cross armbreaker.

I LOVE submission moves!

I strongly advise you to check out some of the videos on youtube regarding submission top 10's (there's even a few top 50's going around too).

Check out Japan's puroresu style which such submission masters as Milano Collection A.T, Yuji Nagata, Tamon Honda, CIMA, Masato Yoshino and many, many more.

Milano Collection A.T especially has some unique submission manouvers.

In the US indy's, look no further than Mike Quackenbush, Bryan Danielson, Chris Hero, Austin Aries, Nigel McGuiness, Davey Richards and again many more.

Failing that, check out some MMA for a vast array of holds.

My sub finisher in game is the STCC (Step-over Toe-Hold Cobra Clutch) which is very similar to one of Masahiro Chono's many STF variations.

Enjoy

I actually got the inspiration for the way I edited the move (what I explained above) from Nigel McGuiness. The Bridging Rings of Saturn (third move in the video) was the move that gave me the idea but instead on laying on the arm, I wanted to keep hold of the wrist lock and just pull it with both hands, basically trying to rip it out of the socket.