Brand Split / Separate Rosters

Subject: Brand Split / Separate Rosters 6/28/2008, 10:18 pm

As I'm sure everyone has noticed now. X-Force Wrestling nows has two separate brands.

X-Force Wrestling and X-Force: Aggression.

From now on I will be running XFW and Dante will be making XFA. Each show will have different feuds, different storylines and different titles.

As of right now, the X-Force Championship and the Extreme Fight Championship are on XFW.

And the Aggression Championship is on XFA. With plans for there to be another Singles title introduced on XFA.

We are still deciding if both brands will share the Tag Championships, or both brands will have separate ones.

As for the future PPV's, we haven't decided if we will have joint shows, or separate ones.

Stable feuds are over. The climax to the stable battles ended at Stable Warfare. Time to start feuds with new people. Stables can stay together, same as tag teams. Or they can split up. The Private Stable forums will stay put, but I would like the stables to focus more on their own brands than the entire fed. Make yourselves stand out as Singles wrestlers. Stand out as tag teams, but try and leave the stables behind.

That's basically it for right now. We have the Season break for the next week, so I would suggest start coming up with new feuds, new ideas, and what you want to see done in the next season. When Dante and I make definite answers on some of these questions we will let you know.

Guest

personally, I think that each brand can have Tag Titles, less competition for just the one. And the XFA new title can be like the X-Force Heavyweight Championship

Subject: Re: Brand Split / Separate Rosters 6/28/2008, 10:39 pm

Y2K wrote:: personally, I think that each brand can have Tag Titles, less competition for just the one. And the XFA new title can be like the X-Force Heavyweight Championship

With only 21 wrestlers per brand, you're talking maximum of 10 teams per brand. But, seriously, there are maybe going to be 4 or 5 teams per brand, if that. Not much competition for 1 title per brand.

Guest

yeah but there are alot of Tag Teams in our fed, and with 1 titles and 2 shows, alot of people wanted a shot

Subject: Re: Brand Split / Separate Rosters 6/28/2008, 11:31 pm

Y2K wrote:: yeah but there are alot of Tag Teams in our fed, and with 1 titles and 2 shows, alot of people wanted a shot

I think what Y2K is really trying to say is:

"NLO keep kicking our asses and I'm never going to get the Tag Title, IT'S NOT FAIR! IT'S NOT FAIR! WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!"

Razz

Guest

man, im in the same brand as them, it doesnt matter, just less competition to get gold

Subject: Re: Brand Split / Separate Rosters 6/29/2008, 12:03 am

Yeah, fair point.

Do we have many tag teams though?

I think that in order to have healthy competition, there should at least be 4 teams per show.

Subject: Re: Brand Split / Separate Rosters 6/29/2008, 12:06 am

JD Allgood wrote:: Yeah, fair point.

Do we have many tag teams though?

I think that in order to have healthy competition, there should at least be 4 teams per show.

XFW have NLO, Cold Blooded Killers, Demonic Riders, and Out for Redemption

Subject: Re: Brand Split / Separate Rosters 6/29/2008, 12:12 am

I vote to have 1 tag-team titles between two brands seeings as the purpose of the brand splitting was to enable those that do not want a tag-team to be able to have a shot to make their wrestler stand out in singles competation. Since we have 21 wrestler's on each brand, and like Playboy said about 10 teams max, and that's assuming everyone wants a tag-team. I personally do not want a tag-team, nothing to do with selfishness or anything like that, it's just that my style of character and tag-teams aren't in the plans hence why I did not try and make a tag-team when everyone was on both shows.

I personally love competition to get gold, it makes it seem more realistic, but before it was impossible to say the least since if you do not tag, I would assume you would want Singles gold, and there was definitive championships to go after. I would not go after say Legion since I know for a fact that it would hurt the federation more by me doing it and I am sure everyone can agree to that.

I really don't know the numbers of people that would like a title shot, but this would be the section to make it heard to see exactly how many teams are staying together. That way the bosses can look at the ratio of singles to tags and decide. And we can see what our current Tag-team Champions think about the whole situation also since they are defending the belts lol.

Subject: Re: Brand Split / Separate Rosters 6/29/2008, 12:27 am

i cant speak for quan but i would personal love to have some tag team gold and i know that could never happen if the tag team titles was cross-brand because the war loads could never beat NLO

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All your suggetsions will be taken into considerations. I am going to let you guys know how I feel since this is your fed and I want you guys to hear some reasoning and please take absolutely no offense to any of it. So Sentinel, I apologize if you would rather here this privately, but I don;t think it will cause no harm.

It's true that NLO will probably reign with the tag titles the same way Legion will reign with his but I personally think that our tag teams has lessen from before. Here is the list of our tag teams at the moment:

The Cold Blooded Killers (Y2K & Travo)
NLO-New Latino Order (Malkyto & Ultimo Guerrero)
Dark Forces (Darth Clay & sharkman)
Fatal Strike (Ryino & Pit Viper)
Out For Redemption (The Sentinel & DarkShadow)
Demonic Riders (GP Pato & Dark Ryder)
The War Lords (Quan & The Slugger)

That is 7 tag teams. Quan & Slugger hasn't really tagged in a while and Slugger is doing good as a singles wrestler (with the Aussie brawl storyline) just like Quan. The same goes for GP Pato & Dark Ryder, they are doing good as a singles wrestlers so far as well. I personally think those 2 tag teams are doing well, if not better, as a single competitors and haven't really feuded with any other tag teams. I'm not saying they can't, they could surely go for that now without a problem.

So not including those aforementioned and NLO, that leaves 4 other tag teams to go after the title. And CBK, no offense and all but I think you guys could feud with another tag team til you get better and then come back to feud with NLO later on. NLO has pretty much defended the tag titles to you guys exclusively so another team should get a chance as well, even though it will be pretty lop-sided unless Badjojo & True Nutter decides to join up and have a chance against them. So that would really leave about 3 other tag teams that could challenge NLO. The tag teams has really dwindled down.

There are more single wrestlers that could go for a singles belt so in my opinion, I think it is best to have that and have the Tag Teams crossover. Not only does an extra singles title give more opportunity to more wrestlers, wrestlers that are in a tag team could also go after those titles as well while a tag team title is only limited to tag teams. Plus with the brand split and if each has a tag title, it will be pretty much 2-3 tag teams competing for it or has a chance to compete for it while a singles title can be competed with anyone.

That is just my idea. Feel free to disagree, but I think that is the better move. There are no set decision yet and everything can still go any which way. I wish we could give out as much gold as possible but then it will just be crowded and unrealistic.

Please, let us hear your ideas and opinions. Thanks for reading.

Subject: ... 6/29/2008, 12:45 am

my thoughts are if you did have a tag in both areas it could make some interesting storylines. Why not throw 2 wrestlers together? say make the champ tag with someone who is not real good to go against the tag champs as a punishment to the champ for something. Or in the middle of a decent feud, have thew two opponents tag as a team. do they turn on each other? what if they win? now 2 guys who dont like each other have to defend the titles for a while.( Matt Hardy and MVP)

SO the idea of having tag champs in each show has some merit for additional storylines.

Subject: Re: Brand Split / Separate Rosters 6/29/2008, 12:46 am

after reading what dante had to say i agree with him that the tag titles should be cross-brand.
but that's just my oppoin.

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darthclay wrote:: my thoughts are if you did have a tag in both areas it could make some interesting storylines. Why not throw 2 wrestlers together? say make the champ tag with someone who is not real good to go against the tag champs as a punishment to the champ for something. Or in the middle of a decent feud, have thew two opponents tag as a team. do they turn on each other? what if they win? now 2 guys who dont like each other have to defend the titles for a while.( Matt Hardy and MVP)

SO the idea of having tag champs in each show has some merit for additional storylines.

That is true but it is difficult to put non-active wrestlers ina tag team just to dethrone the champs. Plus having to make a segment for a wrestler isn't really something I would recommend because I personally would hate it if someone made my character do something I don't want.

If you are talkign about a champ tagging with someone not real good, if you are speaking of someone like Legion, I am not sure that is a good idea because he should really have his own match and if he wins by luck, he would have to hold two titles which will just prohibit more wrestlers from having it.

If you meant, have on of the NLO's tag with someone so that they lose the title, I don't think the other member would be too happy with it either. In all fairness, I just think that the tag teams should lose by their own.

Also, we tried the tag teams of feuding people with worthy and dominator already.

Guest

I like what Darth Clay is saying

Subject: Re: Brand Split / Separate Rosters 6/29/2008, 2:31 am

I think the biggest problem with declaring who is to be a champion and such depends a lot on also who roleplays. Looking at the active roleplayers to non is also a big decision especially for pay-per-views. Having too many inactive roleplaying champions can make others that do roleplay not want to since they know they cannot beat the current champion. For example if an active level 6-9 (on the game) player wants to get some championship, but the current holder is a level 12 or 13 and inactive, how unfair is it for you to be "fed to the wolves" so to speak knowing that you write awesome roleplays but are unable to get any gold simply because of the game part that decides the match winner and loser?

Looking at the splits between the shows there is a good split between inactive:active roleplaying wrestlers as well as challenges towards each other in the different brands which in my opinion is a feat in inself since it is hard to do as it is. And if there is indeed 7 active tag-teams that's 14 wrestlers gone already leaving 2/3 of the roster's to split between soon to be maybe 4 singles belts. There is also the thing that Dante brought up of being a double champion which would make matters even worse. Plus on top of the fact that if you are in a feud, and unless it is with a champion or title contender, you will most likely not be thinking about gold at that point since it spreads your character out too thin. Now personally I haven't watch too much wrestling since the Attitude Era, but am getting back into TNA simply because their women actually wrestle so maybe my point of view is a little outdated.

Remember how you felt when you read some of those other federation shows with no roleplaying and all matches and see if they were a federation that you actually tuned into when they had a show.

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You bring up a good point Jade. In XF:A, if a singles title will be added, it would really help because I will try and keep the second oen for lower leveled wrestlers so they have a chance to win a title as well and they would lose too once in a while. The top title will be the Aggression title that Dominator holds and I believe we have enough talent to take it away from him so it is more even. In XFW, no offense Jade, but your title is more accessible than the XFW title.

Also, I noticed that there are only two tag teams in XF:A so it makes more sense to add an additional singles title as well since those two tag teams would only go at it with each other the whole time. So I don't know yet. I would love to hear more ideas from you guys though. Keep it coming.

Subject: Re: Brand Split / Separate Rosters 6/29/2008, 2:43 am

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Subject: Re: Brand Split / Separate Rosters 6/29/2008, 9:24 am

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Subject: Re: Brand Split / Separate Rosters 6/29/2008, 10:58 am

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Subject: Re: Brand Split / Separate Rosters 7/1/2008, 6:15 am

slugger wrote:: i cant speak for quan but i would personal love to have some tag team gold and i know that could never happen if the tag team titles was cross-brand because the war loads could never beat NLO

We dont stand a chance against NLO. Not in a month of matches. Sad

the sound of more titles is atrctive as there is more gold to go round. But there are also devices like '#1 contender status' and 'money in the bank' that can be used as things for wrestlers to fight for.

Subject: Re: Brand Split / Separate Rosters 7/1/2008, 6:22 am

DANTE wrote:: Also, I noticed that there are only two tag teams in XF:A so it makes more sense to add an additional singles title as well since those two tag teams would only go at it with each other the whole time. So I don't know yet. I would love to hear more ideas from you guys though. Keep it coming.

This makes sense.

When a high level wrestler gets a title and looks like never loosing it, how easy is it to use the 'injured status' to bring them down to a level that would make thier title vulnerable. Or is the only way to write into the show some external intervention to give the win to anouther wrestler?

Also could each brand give away one-of titles (or annual titles like King of the Ring). Events that dont get put up for grabs except on special occasions?

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