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What should I do? | Wrestler Reset? | | 13% | [ 1 ] | Reset skill + moves? | | 50% | [ 4 ] | Buy some more Special Abilities? | | 0% | [ 0 ] | Buy some more Advance Techniques? | | 13% | [ 1 ] | Other (please state below) | | 24% | [ 2 ] |
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Worthy XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 2682 Age : 40 Location : Manchester, England Registration date : 2008-04-23
| Subject: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 3:35 am | |
| Long story but due to my Tag Team partner (Steel Girder Steve) being so good, I've been getting non-stop master challenges which have levelled me up too quickly and now i'm in a situation when I am in level 24 and I have more stats than alot of the others, but they are still +200/-0 and beat me instantly and I'm still getting Masters challenging me non-stop (seriously 5 back to back when the majority of level 24 can beat me instantly?).
Seriously i'm now in that position where there is no point carrying on with this game as these are the current champions:
Level 24 champ - 170 Diff: -46 Lvl: 24
LMS champ - 170 Diff: -46 Lvl: 24
Sub Champ - 194 Diff: -22 Lvl: 24
First Blood Champ - 197 Diff: -19 Lvl: 24
They all have modifiers of +200/-0 and beat me easily.
Here is my profile if you have any tips and advice:
Federations: PWC - Pro Wrestling Championship Roster: X-Force Entertainment • Injury: Healthy • Popularity: 10. Hall Of Famer (903) • Fans: 3262 • Age: 48 • Total Skill Index: 6.917 • Fought matches: 9259 (W:4152 | L:4264| N/C:843) • Wrestler's score: 54.825 • Level Ranking: 166th • Money: 36.380 fantaeuros • Wrestler's level: 24
Strength (level 53) Price: 265 fantaeuros
Speed (level 70) Price: 350 fantaeuros
Resistance (level 50) Price: 250 fantaeuros
Technique (level 43) Price: 215 fantaeuros
Class: Speed Health Points: 1.510 Stamina: 713,4 Exp Points: 26.223 Allowed Attacks: 14 (bonus 44%) Attacks Denied: 3 (bonus 46%)
Attack Bonus: 66 (+15 / 2%) Initiative bonus: 76 Submission Bonus: 16 Adrenaline Gain: 54 Bleeding Bonus: 23 Pinning Bonus: 83
Direct Damage Increaser: 51% Submission Damage Increaser: 22% Damage Reducer: 26% Stamina Reducer: 53%
Block: 37 Dodge: 79 Escape Submissions: 54% Pin Opposition: 20
Power Body: 4. Inexperienced Increased Resistance: 4. Inexperienced Increased Submission Defence: 4. Inexperienced Increased Pinning: 2. Awkward Increased Dodging: 3. Baby Inner Rage: 4. Inexperienced Increased Attack: 6. Trainee Low Blow: 1. Suckling Damage Resistance: 2. Awkward Power Blow: 3. Baby Increased Block: 2. Awkward Pinning Resistance: 2. Awkward
Choke Slam Take Down (level 31) Points: 731,29 - Winning: 7% Damage: 185,03 - 369,99 Attack Bonus: 17,14 Pin Bonus: 17,14 Required Adrenaline: 830 Required Wrestler Status: Always Required Position: Bent down
Rise of the Phoenix (level 42) Points: 1386,77 - Winning: 7% Damage: 342,49 - 684,83 Attack Bonus: 18,51 Pin Bonus: 19,99 Required Adrenaline: 840 Required Wrestler Status: Always Required Position: Grounded Level Progress: 19,62%
Rogue Spear (level 21) Points: 291,9 - Winning: 7% Damage: 233,15 - 466,33 Attack Bonus: 12,59 Pin Bonus: 17,14 Required Adrenaline: 850 Required Wrestler Status: Always Required Position: Both wrestlers are running Level Progress: 26,77%
607 levels of Entrance
Activated moves in this position: 47 Known moves in this position: 88
...I am opening up my invitational permantly now for anyone who wants to try it out. | |
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TheSentinel Creator of X-Force Entertainment
Number of posts : 3440 Age : 37 Location : Missouri, USA Registration date : 2008-04-19
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 5:59 am | |
| I feel for you. I get a challenge from the level 21 Master daily. I jumped up fast with SA's back when they gave us all those FE's for messing up stuff.
What I've been doing is just trying to find those people with 100+/100- or Lower on the plus side and challenging them to build my Wrestler score up. Then I keep a list of everyone I am able to beat, and just challenge them.
I will challenge those with 200+ as well, but I know I'll lose but I just do it for the exp so that I can get more AT's.
SA's are short lived little power ups. And with everyone having them these days, they really aren't as effect. My advice, don't worry about your Win/Lose record as much as try and get a lot of exp and buy AT's. | |
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slugger XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1668 Age : 32 Location : melbourne ,Australia Registration date : 2008-05-01
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 6:17 am | |
| well since you said you have more stats then most of teh people in your level i said do a skill and moves reset and maybe if you do it well enough you will be able to beat them | |
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Cryl XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 990 Age : 54 Location : Germany Registration date : 2010-02-05
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 7:06 am | |
| ok lets start to break this down: Block: 37 Dodge: 79 Big mistake, only go for 1 Now in the skill department I have made the experience that skills are only there to unlock moves, the rest you invest in ATs (see below) Now what you want to do is calculate if you reset how many points you have left to distribute: STR:level 53 - 2133 skill points after reset SPD:level 70 - 6195 skill points after reset TEC:level 50 - 1900 skill points after reset RES:level 43 - 1408 skill points after reset (I did the math for you, your welcome ) now you look at the moves table and pick the moves you want then you distribute the points to get the moves. With the rest of the points invest in skills that you cannot get ATs for... example STR - Berserker personally.... imo you have way to many different ATs Power Body: 4. Inexperienced Increased Resistance: 4. Inexperienced Increased Submission Defence: 4. Inexperienced Increased Pinning: 2. Awkward Increased Dodging: 3. Baby Inner Rage: 4. Inexperienced Increased Attack: 6. Trainee Low Blow: 1. Suckling Damage Resistance: 2. Awkward Power Blow: 3. Baby Increased Block: 2. Awkward Pinning Resistance: 2. Awkward Now you are speed so I figure you do not want to get hit(but if you do get hit less damage) and you want to hit alot and hard, this way you can concentrate on a few and get them higher, insted of faning the ATs around to much. I suggest: INCREASED BLOCK POWER BLOW DAMAGE RESISTANCE this is all for now, if I can help you anyway more I will gladly do so, as you know I am looking to do a reset myself on the 1 of june. btw reset skills/moves and ATs will cost you 70 TPs | |
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Argo XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 771 Registration date : 2009-06-17
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 10:29 am | |
| Ill tell you the same thing I told Big Fatty V when he asked me what he needed to do to get better because he was getting destroyed all the time.
+ Damage Increaser (DDI) + Stamina + Damage Reducer (DR)
When you get above probably level 18-20ish Damage Increaser and Damage Reducer for most of the top non-level sitters is over 150-200%. Now how I understand this if you have 73% DDI and your opponent has 175% DR those numbers basically compare the the other so you are doing only like 5-10% (I think one of those is the min you can do) of you base damage. So say your move is supposed to do 1000-1000 damage. The move is only doing like 50-100 damage because you dont have enough DDI. Looking at your stats I can assume you hit most of your moves are light.
This works the same the other way with DR. If you have 26% DR and your opponent has 175% DDI then his moves are hitting you for base damage + 90-95%. So lets say he has a move that does 100-100 damage when it hits you it does 190-195 damage.
Now imagine when those those damage on mvoes get insane like an Argo Bomb or something. I have seen my 14,000+ finisher kicked out of a ton. It is not because people have that much health it is because I am only doing like 700-1400 damage and people do have that much health at higher levels. (Even though it still does a nice little bit of damage)
Stamina is also extremely important. But from looking at the numbers you have put out there it is not your major issue.
You probably got 112,000 xp to blow if you do a AT reset. Then you could put DDI to level 8, DR to level 8 and Stam to level 8. After that you will have like 4k xp left. Then get your adren back up to level 3-4. This will add 66% DR, and 60% DI. Now I know you will lose some things but you have to lose something to gain something in most cases. If you really want after you do something like that you can get your attack bonus and dodge or block back up but I would stick mostly with those. | |
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Worthy XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 2682 Age : 40 Location : Manchester, England Registration date : 2008-04-23
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 10:51 am | |
| [quote="Cryl"]ok lets start to break this down: Block: 37 Dodge: 79 Big mistake, only go for 1[quote] Dodge then as i'm a speed build. - Quote :
- Now in the skill department I have made the experience that skills are only there to unlock moves, the rest you invest in ATs (see below)
Now what you want to do is calculate if you reset how many points you have left to distribute: STR:level 53 - 2133 skill points after reset SPD:level 70 - 6195 skill points after reset TEC:level 50 - 1900 skill points after reset RES:level 43 - 1408 skill points after reset (I did the math for you, your welcome ) now you look at the moves table and pick the moves you want then you distribute the points to get the moves. With the rest of the points invest in skills that you cannot get ATs for... example STR - Berserker This is what has made up my mind about the stat reset as I have too many moves which is resulting in them not leveling up as quick, so this would solve some of the problems i've been having. - Quote :
- personally.... imo you have way to many different ATs
Power Body: 4. Inexperienced Increased Resistance: 4. Inexperienced Increased Submission Defence: 4. Inexperienced Increased Pinning: 2. Awkward Increased Dodging: 3. Baby Inner Rage: 4. Inexperienced Increased Attack: 6. Trainee Low Blow: 1. Suckling Damage Resistance: 2. Awkward Power Blow: 3. Baby Increased Block: 2. Awkward Pinning Resistance: 2. Awkward
Now you are speed so I figure you do not want to get hit(but if you do get hit less damage) and you want to hit alot and hard, this way you can concentrate on a few and get them higher, insted of faning the ATs around to much. I suggest: INCREASED BLOCK POWER BLOW DAMAGE RESISTANCE I will do this but replace increased Block with increased dodge as it would go with the above. - Quote :
- this is all for now, if I can help you anyway more I will gladly do so, as you know I am looking to do a reset myself on the 1 of june.
btw reset skills/moves and ATs will cost you 70 TPs Thanks and this may need to wait until next season to be honest. | |
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DieHard
Number of posts : 1390 Location : Ottawa, ON Registration date : 2008-04-30
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 10:53 am | |
| It is my understanding that Dodge seems to work really well with Initiative... much more than Block does, so dodge might be the best bet of the two. Doing the stat reset, while determining what moves you will buy and which ones you will leave alone, you should also have plenty of FEs available to buy entrances, which you know will convert exp and then ATs in time. | |
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Worthy XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 2682 Age : 40 Location : Manchester, England Registration date : 2008-04-23
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 11:04 am | |
| [quote="Argo"]Ill tell you the same thing I told Big Fatty V when he asked me what he needed to do to get better because he was getting destroyed all the time. + Damage Increaser (DDI) + Stamina + Damage Reducer (DR) - Quote :
When you get above probably level 18-20ish Damage Increaser and Damage Reducer for most of the top non-level sitters is over 150-200%. Now how I understand this if you have 73% DDI and your opponent has 175% DR those numbers basically compare the the other so you are doing only like 5-10% (I think one of those is the min you can do) of you base damage. So say your move is supposed to do 1000-1000 damage. The move is only doing like 50-100 damage because you dont have enough DDI. Looking at your stats I can assume you hit most of your moves are light. Thanks for posting this as I always wondered why most of my moves are light. - Quote :
- This works the same the other way with DR. If you have 26% DR and your opponent has 175% DDI then his moves are hitting you for base damage + 90-95%. So lets say he has a move that does 100-100 damage when it hits you it does 190-195 damage.
Now imagine when those those damage on mvoes get insane like an Argo Bomb or something. I have seen my 14,000+ finisher kicked out of a ton. It is not because people have that much health it is because I am only doing like 700-1400 damage and people do have that much health at higher levels. (Even though it still does a nice little bit of damage) Like the above this has also helped alot regarding my finishing moves not doing much damage. - Quote :
- Stamina is also extremely important. But from looking at the numbers you have put out there it is not your major issue.
Someone told me years ago this game was all about stamina which is why that is okay. - Quote :
- You probably got 112,000 xp to blow if you do a AT reset. Then you could put DDI to level 8, DR to level 8 and Stam to level 8. After that you will have like 4k xp left. Then get your adren back up to level 3-4. This will add 66% DR, and 60% DI. Now I know you will lose some things but you have to lose something to gain something in most cases. If you really want after you do something like that you can get your attack bonus and dodge or block back up but I would stick mostly with those.
I will use a mixture of yours and Cryls advice and go for these: TECHS: Power Blow Damage Resistance Increased Dodge ABILITIES: Special Damage Special Damage Resistance Special Dodge Simply build up dodge (as thats speeds strongest point), build up damage and build up damage reducer. Thanks for the advice Argo as you too have been very helpful. | |
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Worthy XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 2682 Age : 40 Location : Manchester, England Registration date : 2008-04-23
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 11:07 am | |
| - DieHard wrote:
- It is my understanding that Dodge seems to work really well with Initiative... much more than Block does, so dodge might be the best bet of the two.
Exactly, I found the whole head start thing brilliant for early levels when I could get them down to blue before they even get a shot, but on later levels, it's usless. - Quote :
- Doing the stat reset, while determining what moves you will buy and which ones you will leave alone, you should also have plenty of FEs available to buy entrances, which you know will convert exp and then ATs in time.
Does a stat reset affect the entrances as my entrances and the ammount of fans I have are the only thing I have going for me at the moment? | |
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Olli Thorn XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1134 Age : 36 Location : Helsinki, Finland Registration date : 2009-11-05
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 11:12 am | |
| Stat reset does nothing to entrances.
Initiative is good to a certain extent but since no other class has it, it's not that important in later levels. Focus on dodge, Damage increaser, attack bonus and stamina. | |
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Worthy XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 2682 Age : 40 Location : Manchester, England Registration date : 2008-04-23
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 11:31 am | |
| Thats what I am doing Olli and I'm checking out the forum for my 50TP's. | |
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Olli Thorn XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1134 Age : 36 Location : Helsinki, Finland Registration date : 2009-11-05
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 12:10 pm | |
| Cool.
I've done one stat reset but botched in resetting the moves (took too many and kept them too low) so I'll be doing another reset probs after this season.
Anyway, resetting is just great for your character since you can eliminate bad moves and also all the useless stats you've increased. | |
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Cryl XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 990 Age : 54 Location : Germany Registration date : 2010-02-05
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 1:02 pm | |
| what playboy ment is that after the reset you will have alot of FEs left, you have then 2 choices. raise all your moves you have up as high as possible... or raise them to lets say lvl 20 and with the rest of the FEs put into entrances where you then get mote EP for ATs. for example if I reset this is what I would have left you have : 1 reset available Total reached for reset Money: 1356376 Timer usable for upgrade MOVES: 10577,85 I will prob go for the second option since I try to get the lvl 29 sparring partner... he helps alot in leveling my moves up. I also am trying a trick but dont want to let that cat out of the bag until I test my new build vs Argo | |
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DieHard
Number of posts : 1390 Location : Ottawa, ON Registration date : 2008-04-30
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 1:15 pm | |
| - Cryl wrote:
- what playboy ment is that after the reset you will have alot of FEs left, you have then 2 choices.
raise all your moves you have up as high as possible... or raise them to lets say lvl 20 and with the rest of the FEs put into entrances where you then get mote EP for ATs.
for example if I reset this is what I would have left you have : 1 reset available Total reached for reset Money: 1356376 Timer usable for upgrade MOVES: 10577,85
Yes, you do need to level the moves that you do buy back. You could raise them all to level 20, or just make a spreadsheet and keep track of where those moves were when you reset and work them up to there. From that point, you can see exactly what you have gained in FEs from the process and decide what to spend on from there. Personally... I spent all the "extra" FE on entrances and kept the extra timer for any new moves I purchased from stat upgrades after the reset, if there are still any higher moves that are a little out of your reach after the reset.
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Worthy XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 2682 Age : 40 Location : Manchester, England Registration date : 2008-04-23
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 1:15 pm | |
| At the moment i'm raising the moves to level 20 (I have stuck to 3 in each position except for the rare positions and got big moves such as Swantom Bomb and Half Nelson Facebuster).
I'm not finished yet. | |
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Cryl XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 990 Age : 54 Location : Germany Registration date : 2010-02-05
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 2:15 pm | |
| *slaps Worthy on the fingers* now dont you get cocky with me!! WORTHY PHOENIX HAS A CUT!!! CRYL WINS THE MATCH AND DEFEATS WORTHY PHOENIX !!!! Here's your winner, and STIIIIIIIIILLLLLL champion, Cryl! | |
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Cryl XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 990 Age : 54 Location : Germany Registration date : 2010-02-05
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 2:18 pm | |
| here is the match you should be pounding on The judge gives the victory to Worthy Phoenix with 8 points vs 1 points WORTHY PHOENIX WINS THE MATCH AND DEFEATS CRYL !!!! | |
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Worthy XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 2682 Age : 40 Location : Manchester, England Registration date : 2008-04-23
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 2:22 pm | |
| - Cryl wrote:
- *slaps Worthy on the fingers* now dont you get cocky with me!!
WORTHY PHOENIX HAS A CUT!!! CRYL WINS THE MATCH AND DEFEATS WORTHY PHOENIX !!!! Here's your winner, and STIIIIIIIIILLLLLL champion, Cryl! I was going to stick to the +100/+100 people until I saw you were champ, so I thought, why not as in the process you can see what my new build is like and also add to your title defences. Joking aside, the stats are better than they used to be except for Submission Damage increaser, but I don't have any submission moves any way, so it's okay. I like the new build, but i'm still in a tough level and it will take time to do up. | |
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Worthy XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 2682 Age : 40 Location : Manchester, England Registration date : 2008-04-23
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 2:24 pm | |
| - Cryl wrote:
- here is the match you should be pounding on
The judge gives the victory to Worthy Phoenix with 8 points vs 1 points WORTHY PHOENIX WINS THE MATCH AND DEFEATS CRYL !!!! Just checked that match report and thats some serious John Cena stuff there, got beat at the start and then what a come back. I guess this mean Health and Stamina needs working on a bit more. | |
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Cryl XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 990 Age : 54 Location : Germany Registration date : 2010-02-05
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 2:27 pm | |
| you will get it right, like I said... I am a hard hitter fast match ender... but then I gasp for breath if it takes longer... | |
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Worthy XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 2682 Age : 40 Location : Manchester, England Registration date : 2008-04-23
| Subject: Re: What should I do? 5/25/2010, 2:34 pm | |
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