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+8QuanBeast *'Mr. Wednesday Night'* Jade DANTE "The Natural" DieHard Dark Ryder TheSentinel 12 posters | Author | Message |
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TheSentinel Creator of X-Force Entertainment
Number of posts : 3440 Age : 37 Location : Missouri, USA Registration date : 2008-04-19
| Subject: How can we improve? 11/23/2008, 6:28 pm | |
| That's the question I'm posing to everyone. Whether you just got here or have been her since the beginning. I would like to know what you would like to see happen here in XFW. After all this is your fed so you deserve some say in what you want to see happen. Throw around some ideas. Whether Storylines, Matches, anything that's on your mind. What I want to do is make this place the best it can be, and I can't do that without your help.
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| | | Dark Ryder XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1387 Location : Unknown Registration date : 2008-05-01
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 11/23/2008, 8:03 pm | |
| hmm.... i think we should have a king of the ring type of tourny, where winner just has bragging rights... or maybe kinda like money in the bank tourny where the winner can go after any title, at any time, any where. hmm... thats just a random one. second thought is that we should start out ppv's all over again lol. Starting back with stable warefare and just doing all the ppv's again, that way we can have one ppv being the grand stage of them all... not sure which that one would be though.... it was only a thought though | |
| | | DieHard
Number of posts : 1390 Location : Ottawa, ON Registration date : 2008-04-30
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 11/23/2008, 9:01 pm | |
| #Ways that I think we can improve :
#1) Do away with gimmick matches every show. What people need to realize is that gimmick matches (First Blood, Casket, Hardcore, whatever) are feud ending matches - not one show matches to get into for the hell of it with no buildup or reason whatsoever. They are supposed to be the climax of something, not a sideshow throw-in. When you follow a show and see 2 people thrown into a gimmick match with tacks and barbed wire and ladders for no reason, this makes no sense to the viewer. If we want to be at the top of this game, we need to follow the formula of the big wrestling organizations like WWE.. not your local indy fed where throw-in gimmick matches are a dime a dozen.
#2) GMs need to take ultimate power. You look at WWE, Vince McMahon makes all the decisions. If it makes sense to have someone lose a title and for someone else to win it, that is what happens. Vince doesn't sit back and wait for a superstar to say "Hey... maybe someone else should have this for a while" or ask their permission to write it in. He just writes it into the show that so-and-so loses and so-and-so wins and that's the end of it. The wrestlers themselves may not like it, but when you lose it, you make yourself better with interesting storylines and RPs to earn your way back into the picture.
#3) Inactivity. If you're going to be inactive, you shouldn't be a champion. In going with #2, a champion is supposed to be the face of the fed and should bring the interest in. You can't do that if you're not contributing to the show.
#4) Entrances, entrances and more entrances. This can not be stressed enough and has been mentioned numerous times.
#5) If you have problems coming up with dialogue for your RP, just don't throw something basic in there just to get it done - do a little research and think of some of your favourite things/movies/TV shows/whatever. I'm sure if you have a favourite movie or TV Show, you've probably memorized some of your favourite lines. If your character is somewhat of a comedian, then think of some funny lines you've seen in sitcoms, stand-ups and change it up a bit.... presto, it's yours for the picking in your RP. If you're a dark character, look at something from the horror/mystery genre. Everyone is going to have writers block at some point in time... but you'd be surprised at what you can come up with in just watching something you normally would have in the first place. Or, if you're watching a show (or even reading a book) and think of something you could use at some point, write it down so you don't forget... lo and behold, you'll actually have enough ideas for 3 or 4 RPs ahead of time (a season's worth)... just find the right competitor it will work with, mention your ideas to them and, if they like it, you have an instant feud... just add water. | |
| | | Dark Ryder XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1387 Location : Unknown Registration date : 2008-05-01
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 11/23/2008, 11:37 pm | |
| holy... i don't think i've ever seen you write that much... but to top it off... it all made sense..... i now change my answer to ditto to what playboy said.... that and if i could I would stand and clap for you... cuz it just seems like one of those moments.... but anyways... exactly what playboy said | |
| | | "The Natural" XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 684 Age : 53 Location : West Palm Beach Florida Registration date : 2008-11-02
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 11/24/2008, 1:29 am | |
| The Playboy is right. I have had three matches here and 2 of them were gimmick matches. It's hard to RP a bounce back from a match like that. Inactivity sucks. Two out of three matches, I was against people who didn't RP. Personally, I would RP everyday, if I had someone who was jawing back. You can see by looking at the RP board, that certain people just don't RP. If you don't want to participate, BYE! I think that the fed should be looking for more active RPers. I'd rather have a match with a guy who can't spell, and has trouble putting thoughts into text, than some stats and a picture. We are pretty much running a "business", just like on TV. If you're not going to contribute, pack your big floppy shoes, your crazy wigs and your makeup in your duffle bag, clown, and hit the bricks | |
| | | DANTE
Number of posts : 1410 Registration date : 2008-04-24
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 11/24/2008, 5:52 am | |
| Keep the suggestion coming. We have had great ones so far. We are takign everythign into consideration. Thanks. | |
| | | Jade XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1356 Registration date : 2008-05-01
| | | | *'Mr. Wednesday Night'* XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 446 Location : England Registration date : 2008-04-27
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 11/24/2008, 11:25 pm | |
| I naturally agree (pardon the pun) with both Playboy and the 'Metropolis Kid' on this one.
I feel that those who RP more should be given more of the opportunities, and so far, to Sentinel and Dante's credit, they have done that. Let's face it, my build sucks but thanks to my RPing, Dante always finds a space for me.
I must also emphasise my learned friend, Playboy's advice considering entrances. I have been purposely getting my Butt kicked 5 times a day so as to get the most money to buy entrances. All in the hope that it'll help the fed. If you help the fed, it'll help you.
As far as suggestions go, then I would say CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT and INDIVIDUALITY are the key words here.
Look at JADE and JACK'S feud. These two were able to do such an awesome job because they worked really hard getting their character across so that the other could so effectively role play with them. Give yourself a gimmick that sets yourself apart from the rest and keep on drilling it into people's brains and adding to it so as to flesh out your character.
The best people to look at for this in my opinion are: JADE, JACK, QUAN, DARTH CLAY, DARK RYDER, SENTINEL, JEREMY ALSOP, WORTHY, PLAYBOY, DANTE and more recently 'THE NATURAL' JESSE BLUE.
Read these guys' RPs and try to see how they've set them out, how they describe their actions and what happens around them. Then adapt it to your character and throw in something interesting about your character that we can specifically associate that attribute to your character's persona.
Oh, and regarding gimmick matches, I think it's great when people devise their own speciality matches. This makes it unique from any other match you'll see in any other fed. But, PLEASE, keep the idea simple and easy to understand because some of these have been ridiculously over-booked and hard to follow when reading and as a result people will lose interest.
That is all. | |
| | | QuanBeast XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 729 Age : 47 Location : Deepest Mongolia Registration date : 2008-04-30
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 11/25/2008, 8:44 am | |
| I liked the comment above about the GMs. VinceM for WWE makes it clear that he 'does not care' about the wrestlers and just does what he pleases. And so gimmicks like him copying other wrestlers finishing moves when in matches really catches the imagination. | |
| | | Malkyto XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 576 Age : 40 Registration date : 2008-04-19
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 11/26/2008, 9:58 am | |
| Taking the word of the son of Smallville, im agree. There is a big lack of active RPers. Indeed, my own tag team partner, who was really active at the beggining, now is almost lost (you know, the marriage...). That makes me to do and manage the tag team. Fortunatelly, at Tag picture, there is always at least one active member, and that keeps the picture fresh. But, at the "solo" mode, if you have an unactive wrestler in front of you, your f*ck'd. The other one will not say you anything good, anything bad, anything funny, anything at all. Sadly, as roster, we can't just dismiss wrestlers. Wreslters means fans, fans means money, and money means Continental, IC or World Federations. So, we cant just "kick their asess" out of the building. Sure, we can search for more active RPers, and stop some contract renewing, but it cant be done in just one moment. So, my suggestion is the following: create some kind of "RPs for the Unactives Bureau" (RPUB). I mean, if I, as a (eventual) member of the RPUB, see the card and watch a active vs. unactive match for some show, I will try to make a RP who fits with the unactive gimnick (I probably will add some of my own twist ), talking with the active player to give some kind of push to him (not for the unactive: he doesn't deserves it). AAAHHH! MY BRAIN IS BURNING NOW!!! I WANNA DIE!!!!! (j/k, im just a bit... flu-ed. My voice sounds funny, anyway.) | |
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| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 11/26/2008, 10:33 am | |
| i will also start to rp for inactive people, and if more people do that we get way more rp's and way more money and then a upgrade to IC isn't far away, we just need to rp a lot, and uprade our entrances, i probably have 1 of the lowest entrances of you all but i am working on it and i am trying to fix that, but still sorry for my entrance being so low but i'm working on it and i am probably going to do the reset just so i get allot money that i can spend on entrances |
| | | Plin
Number of posts : 341 Age : 43 Registration date : 2008-08-05
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 11/26/2008, 5:32 pm | |
| Well, a lot of it has been say.
1st: Entrances. It has to be upgraded by all, it isn't only to buy entrances, it is vote everiday, only spend TPs on Tourneys where you can go to the final or win (probably when you are 50th or 25th rank), spend the 5 Invis against Wrestlers with a lot of fans.
2nd: Use of RPs of the season. A good RP as XFW vs XFA, or something as the Black Crusade, can be made to last a season or two, and the chance to participate to a lot of wrestler (we can put some Inactive RPs here, as fillers).
3rd: The use of gimmick matches. Use of gimmick matches in a nonsense match against a non active RP. Isn't good. A good idea can be, have a gimmick match for Active RP, something as his Triumph Card to end feuds or trying to win a title. Better have a caracteristic gimmick match, that not a lot of gimmick matches.
And yes, i'm bad at writing in english XD. | |
| | | Jade XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 1356 Registration date : 2008-05-01
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 11/26/2008, 6:12 pm | |
| With the reset everyone did and poured money into entrances (thanks to everyone) we are doing good on entrances now, hence the big boost you saw on the last couple of shows since I noticed quite a bit of people reset, and in the offseason I reset (was going to wait, but level 13 = doesn't matter anymore lol) and so did Dante so we've got quite a bit of people over 50 entrances, some closing in 100.
If like 75% of the fed has 50 over entrances, it's basically them handing us the upgrade to IC if we don't get it this season since *cough* an IC fed just folded like 2 hours ago! *cough* | |
| | | "The Natural" XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 684 Age : 53 Location : West Palm Beach Florida Registration date : 2008-11-02
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 11/26/2008, 11:28 pm | |
| I have bought 2 entrances this week, and I'm closing in on a 3rd. I am doing what i can to help. I wouldn't mind RPing for inactives, as I would just do it to set up the active one to really rip into them. I would RP everyday if I could. I won an elimination chamber and got to a tournament final. That helped me get some cash. Also, I've been challenging hotter wrestlers than myself, hoping to hit some of my sig moves, so I can name them. It's hard for me to do a lot, since I'm so "young". (and did I mention good looking?) | |
| | | QuanBeast XFE Hall of Famer
Number of posts : 729 Age : 47 Location : Deepest Mongolia Registration date : 2008-04-30
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 11/27/2008, 9:02 am | |
| - Jade wrote:
- With the reset everyone did and poured money into entrances (thanks to everyone) we are doing good on entrances now, hence the big boost you saw on the last couple of shows since I noticed quite a bit of people reset, and in the offseason I reset (was going to wait, but level 13 = doesn't matter anymore lol) and so did Dante so we've got quite a bit of people over 50 entrances, some closing in 100.
If like 75% of the fed has 50 over entrances, it's basically them handing us the upgrade to IC if we don't get it this season since *cough* an IC fed just folded like 2 hours ago! *cough* That a nasty cough you have there Jade. I have worked slowly up to 73 levels of entrance and hope to get to 80 soon. I refuse to re-spec as I dont want to spend the TPs on it and save them for anouther big run of tournaments when i get near the top of level 11. I also want to keep Quan pure with all the bad bits of his build that I am stuck with now. Even though it means that I am wallowing at the same level for ages trying to work out what is wrong with him. | |
| | | Plin
Number of posts : 341 Age : 43 Registration date : 2008-08-05
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 12/5/2008, 7:32 am | |
| Taking about the post another time.
What about every RPer take a Gimmick Match, and only one Gimmick Match. To use for the 1st Contenders, Titles or ending fueds, for example:
Plin - Church of Blood
The match is being held on a cage, with no escape. Instead of turnbuckles, there is four white statues of pagan gods.
The goal of the match is to make your opponnent "Knocked Out Cold" (As Last Blood), with no weapons, only your bare hands and smashing opponnent's head on the statues (the only weapon). | |
| | | JPower
Number of posts : 1152 Age : 50 Location : Unreality Registration date : 2008-06-27
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 12/5/2008, 9:17 am | |
| I'd rather see that match as kind of a four corners match, where you have to spread your opponent's blood on each of the four statues to win the match. | |
| | | Diamond Troy Justice
Number of posts : 221 Location : The Law Office Registration date : 2008-05-06
| Subject: Re: How can we improve? 12/5/2008, 11:18 am | |
| I think DTJ would go for a Nightstick/Taser Lumberjack match. | |
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